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July 2024 net worth update & Social Security considerations

July 31st, 2024 at 05:01 pm

We had a modest month of retirement fund growth and are still on track with CoastFIRE! I also had a mini-revelation a few weeks ago that we may be a lot more set than I realized. I haven't factored Social Security benefits at all into my calculations; I'm a bit of a pessimist when it comes to thinking about whether it'll still be a thing when I'm of age. But I checked our benefits out of curiosity and saw that the combined benefit of our three accounts could be $4,200 if we start drawing down at age 62 and $7,200 if we start at age 70. Our estimated required monthly funds in retirement are $5,500. I had been a bit worried that I was estimating our needs too low, but now I'm much less worried because chances are we'll receive at least partial Social Security, so I think we should be good!

Assets      
NT's UK pensions:      
AV1: 26,511 pounds $33,139    
SW: 31,522 pounds $39,403    
AV2: 7,971 pounds $9,964    
NT's trad. rollover IRA $125,665    
NT's Roth IRA $83,933    
NT's SEP IRA $7,161    
NT's AAC acct $4,843    
AS's trad. rollover IRA $31,455    
AS's Roth IRA $117,493    
AS's SEP IRA $84,523    
AS's Nevada acct (approx amt) $380    
CJ's trad. rollover IRA $271,231    
CJ's Roth IRA $90,641    
CJ/NT/AS house ($643,000 value -6%) $604,420    
CJ/NT/AS rental property ($599,000 value -6%) $563,060    
TOTAL ASSETS $2,067,311 retirement only: $899,831
       
Debt      
Main mortgage $335,890    
Rental property mortgage $380,063    
Loan from friends (main house) $9,000    
TOTAL DEBT $724,953    
       
Current Estimated Net Worth July 2024 $1,342,358    
       
June 2024 estimate: $1,331,320    
       
Change in net worth $11,038    
       
       
COAST FIRE: https://walletburst.com/tools/coast-fire-calc/    
retirement goal $1.59 million by 2039 (CJ age 65)    
       
Current age: 50      
Retirement age: 65      
Annual spending in retirement: $63,600      
Monthly contribution: $250      
Investment growth rate: 7%      
Inflation rate: 3%      
Withdrawal rate: 4%      
Current invested assets $899,831    
Coast FIRE number at current age $882,871    
Current status: at Coast FIRE      

5 Responses to “July 2024 net worth update & Social Security considerations”

  1. LivingAlmostLarge Says:
    1722469384

    Me too. I haven't ever calculated SS into my retirement calculations and we're similar in age. I just don't know how to calculate it so instead I just leave it by the wayside. I mean I know I should I just figure I'm like 20 years give or take away so a lot can happen in that time.

  2. Dido Says:
    1722473370

    Good realization to count at least partial Social Security in. While there WILL have to be changes, there are a LOT of things they could do to shore up the system.

    When you hear that Social Security may run out of money, it's the Social Security Trust Fund or excess that built up in the 1990s and earlier when the cohort of younger working people was larger than the cohort of retirees.

    There will ALWAYS be people working and paying into the system so there will always be funds to pay at least some benefits.

    The latest estimate is a 21% reduction in benefits in 2035.

    BUT, cutting benefits to those who are claiming is a real political hot potato; I doubt it would come to that. Instead, there will be some combination of:
    -imposing Social Security taxes on wages over the current wage cap of $168,600 (particularly on wages over $400,000--there may be a "donut hole" for wages from the current wage cap up to $400k);
    -raising the retirement age for younger people; currently Full Retirement Age is 67 with the possibility to receive "delayed retirement credits" of up to 8% per year if you delay until age 70; for people who are younger, that could change over time to Full Retirement Age at 70 with delayed credits up until age 73 or something like that;
    -there are also inflation factors that they use in calculating the annual adjustments OR the equation that they use for calculating the "break points" in benefit calculations that could be changed. Basically, your Primary Insurance Amount is calculated using an equation that first of all calculates your lifetime inflation-adjusted wages for the top 35 years that you earned (if you have a working record longer than 35 years, they inflation-adjust everything to the same year and then lop off the lowest wage years until they are left with 35; if you have fewer than 35 working years, they add in zeroes for those years); the equation then does something like weigh the first $15k of your wages really heavily, the next $30k a little less heavily, and so on, so that people in low-paying jobs receive a higher *proportion* of their average lifetime wages as a benefit than higher earners do.

    There are a lot of fixes; there just needs to be the political will to do so. As long as we have split governance, the changes will get delayed until we get way too close to needing to make a cut, probably around the end of this decade.

    As a financial planner, I don't factor in a cut to benefits for clients who are already claiming; for those who have yet to retire, I factor in the latest projection of the SSA Trustees. Sometimes for clients in their 30s and 40s who are very Leary about SS, we factor in 50% of their projected benefit.

  3. Dido Says:
    1722608625

    Agree; the growing national debt is a concern.

    It's Medicare that is the harder fix than Social Security. Their Hospital Insurance (Medicare Part A) fund is currently slated to run out in 2036, a year after SS.

    However, the fix is harder. Currently, you pay for Part A with every paycheck you earn at 1.45%. And, unlike SS, where there is a cap at $168,600 in income, for Medicare, there is no cap--AND there is a 3.9% surcharge for higher wage earners. So they've already started instituting some changes, and it's still not enough for the projected needs.

    Increasing the payroll tax would be the easiest fix in terms of shoring up the system, but politically difficult.

    [Note that Medicare Parts B and D don't face the same problems because they are paid for differently.

    Part B is federal insurance but you pay a premium monthly (automatically withdrawn from SS once you start SS; if you are on Medicare before you start SS, you will pay your premiums quarterly). 2024 base premium is $174.70 and higher earners pay a surcharge known as IRMAA (income-related monthly adjustment amount), based on your modified Adjusted Gross Income from two years prior (AGI + tax-exempt income).

    Part D is private insurance. So is your Medicare Supplement (also known as Medigap), and Medicare Advantage (also known as Part C) is private insurance as well. They don't face the same funding problems.

  4. Dido Says:
    1722817562

    LB, glad to be of service!

    I really enjoy feeling useful to others :^).

  5. rob62521 Says:
    1724611778

    Dido, you rock!

    Being a teacher I'm not eligible for Social Security, but sure hope it is around for those of you who are eligible.

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